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Help me lazy web... you're my only hope - Jef"I am the pusher robot"Spaleta
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Help me lazy web... you're my only hope
So I've been talking to educators in my little frozen corner of the world and they've been telling me about educational hotness that they are using.

MS Onenote came up. So lazy web. I ask you, does the open source multiverse have a compelling alternative to the MS Onenote software? If we have an alternative, any chance someone can do up a screencast of it being used?

The other thing that came up was... smartboards. So the manufacture has software for linux.. but its not open source.
So lazy web, anyone out there using Smart boards with linux? Anyone out there working on an open software stack for smart boards?
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From: (Anonymous) Date: January 26th, 2008 11:28 pm (UTC) (Link)

KDE's Basket

I've never seen MS Onenote, but from what I can tell Basket (http://basket.kde.org/), which I do use, is a compelling open source alternative.
jspaleta From: jspaleta Date: January 27th, 2008 12:34 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: KDE's Basket

since you use it, can you do a screencast ogg of you doing what you do with it? It can be a synthetic tutorial use, but I want to be able to show the particular person i talk with something specific and get feedback from him.


-jef
katzj From: katzj Date: January 26th, 2008 11:47 pm (UTC) (Link)
What specific part of onenote? I've heard a few things about it too, but haven't looked that closely at it. I know that some of what it does is tomboy-like but some part is also tablet types of things (which xournal works nicely for). And then there are some things that I don't know of any comparable things (record a lecture, map the specific notes taken to time points within the recording)
jspaleta From: jspaleta Date: January 27th, 2008 12:37 am (UTC) (Link)
if memory serves... the actually application...was something close to what basket does... with xournal's tablet interaction.... on a smart board.


-jef
From: dariushethcox Date: August 10th, 2008 10:25 pm (UTC) (Link)
Keep a record and then look back on the record. . . I am sure that you will find an increase in your learning ability.
From: piroskamcgough Date: October 9th, 2008 03:30 pm (UTC) (Link)
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From: (Anonymous) Date: January 26th, 2008 11:51 pm (UTC) (Link)

Nah

OneNote is for managing bibliographies, and in heavy duty way. Bibtex might come close, but many scientific sites give out importable (automatically imports when you click them, file association...) entries in Onenote format. Also it handles making the references itself and the bibliography on what you are writing so that it adheres to the standard (oh there are many to use) chosen by you. It's a huge database from which you can pretty much drag and drop what you want to use for your current document... Many authors have gigantic databases already and if you build something that can replace Onenote you have to also make migration tools or nearly no one will migrate.

If you step outside *Tex world I have never come around any open source application that would be a match for Onenote. There isn't such.

Onenote is a dying application ny the way. Office 2007 has that functionality built-in. It's not as hard-core implementation but sufficient for most serious authors.
From: benniedevenin Date: August 10th, 2008 09:22 pm (UTC) (Link)
There are so many white judges because there are a lot of white people who still live in Hong Kong, and as someone from Hong Kong who has considered a legal carer and is white, I don't find your tone helpful.
From: (Anonymous) Date: January 27th, 2008 12:58 am (UTC) (Link)

What's OneNote

Doesn't anyone know how to use a search engine?

Microsoft OneNote is wiki looalike.

http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/onenote/HA101686341033.aspx

A personal/desktop wiki system:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_wiki

Look in the link above for alternatives. There are also other systems that allow taking and linking them although they are not wiki systems: they are called notebooks/outliners/etc.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/java-notelab/

http://sourceforge.net/search/?words=basket&type_of_search=soft&pmode=0&words=outliner&Search=Search


Smartboards

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMARTBoard

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interactive_whiteboard

A start, not very promising:

http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=%2Bwhiteboard&filter=&filter_scope=&orderby=date_added_unix_DESC

http://www.google.com/search?q=open%20source%20whiteboard&hl=en&lr=

http://sourceforge.net/search/?words=whiteboard&sort=latest_file_date&sortdir=desc&offset=0&type_of_search=soft&pmode=0&form_cat=18


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Learning#E-learning_software_platforms

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learning_management_system#Open_source

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_learning_environment#List_of_some_virtual_learning_environments

A whiteboard made with wiimotes:

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/projects/wii/

Thank you.

PS: Your anti-spam is crap.
jspaleta From: jspaleta Date: January 27th, 2008 01:06 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: What's OneNote

Maybe I wasn't clear.... I'm hoping to snag people who use this sort of stuff in a real educational setting.

It's pure craziness to think that I could show some high school educators a wii-mote based smart board and expect real traction on implementing it.

There's a huge gap between "holy crap this is cool" and "I'll use this in my class room, evaluate it, and if I like it, help see it implemented in the rest of the school and support it in the district"

I am not an educator, if I'm going to impact my local area, I need to find people which shared experience and technical problems that the local educators won't just write off as a crazy open source zealot. Pointing them to wikipedia pages isn't going to cut it. But thanks.

-jef
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From: vonwimberly Date: August 10th, 2008 09:23 pm (UTC) (Link)
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From: grahamventer Date: August 10th, 2008 09:35 pm (UTC) (Link)
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From: (Anonymous) Date: January 27th, 2008 01:08 am (UTC) (Link)

Looked at Zotero?

http://www.zotero.org/
jspaleta From: jspaleta Date: January 27th, 2008 01:24 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Looked at Zotero?

that's very interesting. I'll have to poke my educator next week at curling and see if he'd be interesting in playing with that.

My feeling is, people are using OneNote because its close enough to what they need, and they happen to have it.. on their PCs. But the school district is starting to hand out macs to teachers. So... a firefox plugin that does "enough" that all the teachers can use, might be a very good starting point for a conversation.

-jef
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